• 03:22:32 am on November 13, 2008 | 14
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    Sorry, no LIVE Chat tonight … back, at the usual time next week!


    How high is your mountain?

    Lee gently reminded me that I have used a similar post title before; and I have!

    That’s because, this is the second time that the 7 Millionaires … In Training! (and, hopefully, you) have taken a long, hard look at your Number …

    … in fact, you have probably put more time and energy into Your Number (and, Your Life’s Purpose) than I did, way back in 1998!

    It will be well worth the effort …

    Before we go on, let me remind you that we measure the ‘steepness’ of a financial curve by its Required Annual Compound Growth Rate – and, here is what the 7MITs’ look like (using the 7MITs’ actual current net worth as a starting point):


    Two things to notice:

    1. How some of the Numbers have changed a LOT since the last time the 7MITs tried this exercise (while others haven’t changed at all), so it pays to put serious effort into understanding both your Life’s Purpose and your ensuing WANTS v NEEDS, and

    2. The compound growth rate required to get from here (your current Net Worth) to there (your Number) by when (your Date).

    Why is this significant?

    Because it tells you a lot about the investment choices, hence risks you need to take:

    The Average Compound Growth Rate is a measure of how ’steep’ a financial mountain you need to climb … and, that should tell you whether you need a train, a fast car, or a helicopter to get you to the very top in time.

    According to Michael Masterson in his book Seven Years To Seven Figures:

    Required Compound              Investments

    Growth Rate                             Required

    4%                                                  CD’s

    8%                                           Index Funds

    15%                                              Stocks

    30%                            Real-Estate together with Stocks

    45%              Real-Estate together with Stocks and Small Businesses

    50%+                           Start Your Own Business

    So, how big is your mountain? More importantly, how steep the gradient?

    And, are you prepared to try a new mode of transport, if that’s what is required?

    Are you?

    BTW: For convenience, here are links to each of the 7MITs recently updated NetworthIQ Profiles:

    Lee       http://www.networthiq.com/people/topekac1
    Diane    https://www.networthiq.com/people/Diane
    Mark     https://www.networthiq.com/people/markwws
    Josh      https://www.networthiq.com/people/jaushwa/2008/11
    Ryan     https://www.networthiq.com/people/PassiveSeeker
    Debbie  https://www.networthiq.com/people/debtfreedom/2008/10
    Scott     https://www.networthiq.com/people/abundantlife



  • Diane 10:26 am on November 13, 2008 | #

    I know how I got my first number. I knew someone who had $3M in the bank and no longer worked and thought they were set for life. I then talked to a friend who was a financial planner because I didn’t think $3M was really all that much but the planner said that it was enough to have a decent withdrawal for living on (I believe we were thinking of around $100k for the area of the country we were in) and not touch the principle.

    As for the next numbers, I went through a wish-list based on the 4-hour Work Week book (4hww.com) that gave us a clear way to think about our dreams in terms of what it would really cost to do what we think it would cost “millions” to do. (For example, what does airline from Po-dunk USA to Paris cost? What kind of accomodations would I really stay in and for how long, what is the cost of a rental car? How much of this can I get from a travel agent?) As a cost analyst, I was well familiar with the need to get rough estimates by making sure I considered all the parts (doing a grass roots estimate by building up from these pieces) so that I wouldn’t get caught unaware later. The numbers now are still rough estimates based on some pretty-fleshed-out plans, analogies to similar items, some basis on historical facts, and a lot of assumptions (tho I did play some “what-ifs” with assumptions about earnings from investments to get a range of what I would need).

    The hardest thing to determine is time. I am basing that on a perceived need, realizing that if I am still alive, there is more time, yet needing to reach my number by 6 years for more personal reasons.

    To reach that, I need to set some intermediate goals next.

  • Scott 2:01 pm on November 13, 2008 | #

    I know i’m ready to get to my number. Just about everything i’ve done since I left home for the Army at 18 years old has been in preparation to get to exactly where I am today. And where I am today is standing directly on that same road, headed to the same goal and same place….on to my number and to my life’s purpose.

  • Josh 3:18 pm on November 13, 2008 | #

    I arrived at my original number through a list of activities as well as things that I want to achieve and own in my life time. ($20,000,000) This number hasn’t really changed for the long term at all, but the minimal number I need to consider myself successful in achieving my life’s pupose is 4.85 million. This is the smallest number imaginable while staying true to my life’s purpose.

  • Debbie 6:09 am on November 14, 2008 | #

    I started out with $5 million as my number. There wasn’t much rhyme or reason to that, it just seemed like a ton of money and I figured it’d be more than enough for anything I’d ever want to do. I’m only a little embarrassed to say I just sort of picked it out of thin air for the most part.

    As I progressed through AJC’s experiment… he had us think more about the big picture – our “life’s purpose”. So my revised number was reflecting how much I thought necessary to live that purpose and I discovered $5 million wouldn’t quite be enough to sustain some of those things.

    Finally, after an excruciating process (for me, anyway) I worked out the fine details of living my life’s purpose by the date I selected and exactly what kind of cash would be required to be able to stop working (if I want).

    I’m glad we went through this process. If I had just gone with my first guess of $5 million, I’d fall short and not be able to fulfill my life’s purpose as I intend to. I wouldn’t have known that if I didn’t go through a detailed, thought-provoking exercise to come up with my number and date. I also wouldn’t feel particularly passionate about what I’m doing in this experiment if I didn’t have such an attachment to my number and date. It’s not good enough to say “I need a lot of money to do stuff” or “I need money to do stuff and give to charity” – it’s the specifics that allow you to create actual plans that can deliver. Without a plan and end goal – how would you know if you “made it” there?

  • AJC 12:44 pm on November 14, 2008 | #

    @ Debbie – I thoroughly enjoyed working with you (offline, via e-mail) on this … it really helped me to refine the process and you’ll see how that begins to manifest for everyone else’s benefit shortly.

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